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Red Herrings

#1 Post by fernando » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:13 pm

There have been a few red herrings in the mags and I was just randomly thinking are herrings actually red and why are they called red herrings?

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Re: Red Herrings

#2 Post by Cenwulf » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:07 pm

A 'red herring' is one which has been cured by salting and smoking, and it's actually a dark brown rather than red.

As for the misleading 'red herring', it goes back to the days of fox-hunting. When there weren't any real fox-trails to follow, they would get someone to drag a fish along the ground to provide a false trail for the dogs to follow. Sometimes people would deliberately sabotage a hunt by dragging a fish across a real trail.

As the herring family is Clupeidae, I used to refer to a red herring as Clupea rubidis over at DVP (I used Latin a lot there).
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#3 Post by Bunnylump » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:08 pm

But interestingly, the word "herring" (according to my Dictionary of Word Origins) comes from:
"the grey fish". Old English hering goes back to a prehistoric West Germanic "kheringaz" in which the first syllable could represent the ancestor of the English hour "silvery grey" - the colour of the herring.

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Re: Red Herrings

#4 Post by fernando » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:21 pm

I actually do latin at school but I feel very let down that the teacher hasn't told us important things like the word for types of fish. :)

The foxhunting idea sounds quite cunning thoguh:)

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Re: Red Herrings

#5 Post by Bunnylump » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:49 pm

I did Latin for a year and all I can remember is my school motto:Esse Quam Videri which means "to be rather than to seem", which I suppose is fair enough. I do prefer the motto of my kids' school though "Rejoice in thy youth", which of course you never do when you are a youth but sort of wish you had when you're an old git. :lol:
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