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Request for help please
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:37 pm
by Bunnylump
My cousin is asking for help for a puzzle. I have no idea. Anyone else?
Clever cousins help!
Or anyone who has the faintest idea help!
I think this is a cryptogram, I don’t know how to solve it, I even wrote it out to see if I had an idea, it seems to be musical notes, it’s supposed to give co ordinates.
If someone could give me a clue I’d appreciate it…..
The co-ordinates above are for a start of a rocky track that leads down to the adit. This area contains a number of tunnel entrances and in order to obtain the co-ordinates for the one with the cache in, you must first solve the following puzzle:
N° DGFAC CBBCD EFAAG DBCEF FDECA BBCGF FAGCD
W° ADFBE CCEBF DAAGD BCCFG BBCAA GDBEE FDCGG ADBE
I am guessing she is geocaching!
Re: Request for help please
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:21 am
by SparkOut
Is she going to look into the light?
I will try and look today, but bak to wok
Re: Request for help please
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:20 am
by Bunnylump
SparkOut wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:21 am
Is she going to look into the light?
I don't know anything about geocaching!
Re: Request for help please
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:39 am
by SparkOut
Geocache GC1AGGD is called Look into the Light.
It's a 5/5 (hardest difficulty and hardest terrain classification).
I hope your cousin is a spelunker! The entrance is basically a badger's sett, and a good part of the tunnel floor is flooded with ice-cold water, which is over the knees, even in summer months. Apparently it does get drier nearer the cache.
(Not that I have any progress to report on the cipher yet.)
Re: Request for help please
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:52 am
by Bunnylump
Oh, I see! Thank you!
I tried playing the "notes" as chords to see if it might be a tune (mainly because it referred to a "rocky track" but it didn't seem to be. The only other thing I could think of was to assign a-1, but that would only give 7 numbers, and the lengths of the code didn't look right for coordinates anyway.
Re: Request for help please
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:33 pm
by Bunnylump
Just found this
https://www.dcode.fr/music-sheet-cipher
Puzzlers beware!
I don't know if this is the answer or not though!
Re: Request for help please
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:04 pm
by SparkOut
I doubt it, but not sure.
So, this cipher is encrypting 7 northing digits, and 8 westing digits.
The puzzle cache listing is on Exmoor, and rules are that it has to be within two miles of the puzzle co-ordinates.
So DGFAC CBBCD must decipher to 5 and 1. ADFBE CCEBF DAAGD must decipher to 0, 0 and 3.
The solution can be checked here
https://www.geochecker.com/index.php?co ... 4c69676874
Format: N51 00.000 W003 00.000
Re: Request for help please
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:13 pm
by Bunnylump
Goodness, thank you! I have absolutely no idea how you did that, but I will pass it on!
Re: Request for help please
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:04 pm
by SparkOut
Well, now I am just starting to have a look see and try to decipher the digits. I am not sure what encoding is used.
Re: Request for help please
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:08 pm
by SparkOut
Most of the info is from here
https://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC1 ... -the-light
(for some reason I had assumed ot was a premium cache and you wouldn't be able to see it, but seems not so)
(Note, the bottom of the page shows a decryption key - that's just for the additional hint next to it, and has nothing to do with the cipher)
Gallery of cachers' photos
https://www.geocaching.com/seek/gallery ... cd93cd81bf
(See page 2, Ambling exitwards)
Re: Request for help please
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:43 pm
by SparkOut
I'm not getting anywhere yet.
Anyone else with an idea how DGFAC CBBCD decodes to 5 & 1 (or any other ideas?)
Re: Request for help please
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:25 pm
by SparkOut
OK, this is done!
I did need some help from other sources to get to the bottom of this but, essentially this is a 7 segment display puzzle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:7_Se ... gments.svg
What threw me was the breaking up of the string into "words" of 5 letters (except the trailing ones). But first you have to take the string and mash it all together. Then break it apart again where there are double letters:
- Into the Light text.png (4.87 KiB) Viewed 4850 times
(Scurra's hinty link for this set of puzzles actually includes a decoder:
https://www.dcode.fr/7-segment-display)
This gives you
- Into the Light.png (5.07 KiB) Viewed 4848 times
So the co-ordinates with the formatting for the checker are
- Formatted Coordinates.png (4.12 KiB) Viewed 4849 times
Re: Request for help please
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:32 pm
by SparkOut
And the confirmation
- Into the Light solution.png (36.26 KiB) Viewed 4849 times
Re: Request for help please
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:42 pm
by Bunnylump
Re: Request for help please
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:51 pm
by SparkOut
Like I said, I needed help too.
Re: Request for help please
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:14 am
by Scurra
Oh yeah. 7-segment seems obvious now. (It clearly wasn't musical notes, but I couldn't think how A-G could be indicating anything. Not that I'd thought about it much, because my brain has been mostly mush this week thanks to some sort of 'flu thing - not Covid though.)
Re: Request for help please
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:17 am
by Bunnylump
Sorry to hear you are poorly, Scurra. Sounds like what my son had over Christmas. Hope you feel better soon.
Re: Request for help please
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:14 am
by SparkOut
We've all had it since Christmas too, and it won't go away.
Re: Request for help please
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:27 am
by LAT
Oh dear, hope everyone gets better soon.
And I guess we can look forward to a puzzle based on 7-segment display sometime!
Re: Request for help please
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:02 am
by Scurra
We've had a couple. But not using that specific code which is probably why I didn't recognise it.
