Clever s*ds - help required please!!

[LAT]

You could cut and paste though!
But it might look just a wee bit obvious and could be frustrating for the next person to use the book.

I do think with a book you are more likely to read what it says and ensure it is what you want though. And I love reference books of all types.

[gill216]

I can feel a clip around the ear coming from somewhere

[giraffe]

Consider him clipped!

[Bunnylump]

AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!
Cutting and pasting is my all time pet hate for pupils. So many of them can produce some wonderful LOOKING work, but then have no idea what they've written about. My individual pupils know better than to do that though. If they are being asked to research something on the internet, and then type their project or homework, they KNOW that before I read it I will ask them to explain all about what they've written. THEN I make a point of telling the teacher whether or not it is their own work (at their level), whether they have understood it, AND how much effort I think they have put into it!! As a consequence, they have often gained a better understanding of the work than many of the more able pupils who have just copied it out.

Also, my friendly IT man showed me how to turn off the spell checker and thesaurus on the pcs in my Learning Support classroom. Otherwise, the kids look at the options, click on the first one they see, randomly, and make their coursework into gobbledegook.* I then suggest which words they need to look up in a dictionary or thesaurus.
Yes. I am evil. BUT almost without exception, MY pupils do far better than they are predicted. (SMUG PR).

*That's what inspired that puzzle about "find the quote" I made on dvp that some of you did, years ago, which was based on incorrect use of the thesaurus.

[clvrlad]

you mean they dont know how to turn them on .... first thing i learnt

[Bunnylump]

Well, yes, but I don't let them. Surely you must know (being dyslexic, I believe you told us once) just how hard it is to know which is the correct spelling to choose UNLESS you look the meaning up too? I don't know if this is true for you, but most of my SpLD pupils will only know if a word is right if they have learned spelling rules for it. Looking at a list of possibles with no knowledge to guide them is like sticking a needle in a haystack, often with" bazaar " resulting sentences.

[giraffe]

Me again! Having technical problems.

I'm trying to make my mum a cd for her birthday tomorrow (yes I know I've left it to the last minute) with all the children paying their instruments. This was what I originally downloaded audacity for a few months ago.

Well all was going swimmingly until just now. I recorded Kingsley playing a clarinet piece and at the end of it (6 and a half minutes of non stop puffing) audacity decided it had a problem and shut itself down before I had clicked save.

When I opened audacity again it told me that it couldn't auto recover, but there was a temporary file that I could manually recover. Any idea where I would look for the temporary file, or recognise it as it has no name.

[clvrlad]

Me again! Having technical problems.

I'm trying to make my mum a cd for her birthday tomorrow (yes I know I've left it to the last minute) with all the children paying their instruments. This was what I originally downloaded audacity for a few months ago.

Well all was going swimmingly until just now. I recorded Kingsley playing a clarinet piece and at the end of it (6 and a half minutes of non stop puffing) audacity decided it had a problem and shut itself down before I had clicked save.

When I opened audacity again it told me that it couldn't auto recover, but there was a temporary file that I could manually recover. Any idea where I would look for the temporary file, or recognise it as it has no name.

erm just wondering which version of audacity are you using?
a quick google(first result btw ) gave me this... http://wiki.audacityteam.org/index.php? ... shRecovery
which seems ok if your using audacity 1.2

[clvrlad]

Well, yes, but I don't let them. Surely you must know (being dyslexic, I believe you told us once) just how hard it is to know which is the correct spelling to choose UNLESS you look the meaning up too? I don't know if this is true for you, but most of my SpLD pupils will only know if a word is right if they have learned spelling rules for it. Looking at a list of possibles with no knowledge to guide them is like sticking a needle in a haystack, often with" bazaar " resulting sentences.

that might be my large appetite for reading i sort of "know" its wrong but cant place my finger on why...
info seems to go in ok its just getting it back out in a recognisable result

[giraffe]

1.2.6

[clvrlad]

id follow the instructions for 1.2 since it does mention a 1.3 the later the numbers are usually build numbers not versions

hope it helps oh btw if youve recorded it stereo it generates each channel separately oddly numbered files being one side and the even the other side...
personally id have them re record it ...and record it to a machine aswell as the computer even if its a camcorder aslong as it saves the sound in a way you can put back in to the computer...

[giraffe]

Our camcorder doesn't connect to computers, and that's another story.

Back in a bit when we've tried to re record it. It's a bit late for a good performance.

[MBH]

OK - I'll have a stab.

Back to the bit about 'how would I find a temporary file'... I'd use the windows File Search facility to look for a file name * (Yes - just the asterisk) and then control the 'Choose the File Dates' to limit it to a single date.

When it comes up with an amazingly large list of things you never know you did you can look down the times alongside the date to cut it down to a very small number of possibilities.

How that gets to to 'recovering' it I don't know - but at least you can find the file you need.

[clvrlad]

basically mbh it saves it (as a wav file i believe just not named that think they have an au extension) in consecutively numbered files 1mb large and each channel separately the programme itself will tell you where its put them if you ask nicely ( basically one of the options is to tell it where to put them and it shows where its currently set to put them)

[giraffe]

I found the file, using clvrlad's very helpful page, but it said it was empty. So we re-recorded, but she says it wasn't good enough to use. I'll see if I can get her to try again in the morning. I could always send the CD by post after the event and have more time to fiddle with it.

[clvrlad]

You could cut and paste though!
But it might look just a wee bit obvious and could be frustrating for the next person to use the book.

I do think with a book you are more likely to read what it says and ensure it is what you want though. And I love reference books of all types.

well you could just scan it in with text recognition software......

[MBH]

Also, you can't copy and paste a book!!!

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well you could just scan it in with text recognition software......

Errr....... **SLAPPPP** Not helping 'Tin Dog'


I'm having fun with Library Staff of a certain age that a resistant to 'technology', where they want to want to 'learn' something by being told what button to push. I've got the job (slightly self imposed) of trying to convince them they need to learn a 'concept' rather than a 'screen location'... especially when the task is "Attaching a File to an Email". I've told them it's no use showing them AN email system and saying "Press Here" because all email systems are different - so they need to learn the concept of what they are doing and then use that to look for the bit to click.

How many know and understand what a 'file' can be is a totally different question

[clvrlad]

a file?
isnt that usually hidden in a cake......?


btw the cake is a lie

[eirian]

How many know and understand what a 'file' can be is a totally different question

Yep, how many times do I need to try to explain that documents aren't stored *in* MS Word.....
(one colleague in particular panics when she's scanned something to send by email, but then tries to find it in her folder and can't see it. I've given up going over to her desk to solve the problem and just say 'don't worry, it'll be there when you try to attach it to the email', knowing that she's looking for it via Word and therefore it's not appearing on her list. You'd think that after 3 years of scanning things she'd've realised that by now.... Mind you, she is much better on computers than she gives herself credit for - this is about the only thing she consistently fails to understand)

[giraffe]

Thank you all for your help, we now have a cd for Grandma's birthday, but minus the Devienne piece that was not deemed good enough. Perhaps it will make it onto the Christmas Album!